9 million in direct donations to candidates, parties and political committees every two years. That is in place of the current limit of around $123,000. â€¦
This is empowering the 1 percent, except thatâ€™s a little bit misleading. Because itâ€™s not really a case about the rights of the 1 percent, itâ€™s a case about the rights of the .0001 percent. There are only a few hundred people who are going to write multi-million-dollar checks following this decision. But they are going to have an absolute stranglehold over elections and policy-making in this country.
DB: I want to ask you to talk a little bit more, in detail, about the logic. What was said [in the majorityâ€™s decision] and the logic of the decision coming out of the court. What are they saying? Why is this a move towards â€œdemocracyâ€?
RW: Well, itâ€™s a little bit hard to articulate the, so-called, logic. But, here goes. The system, before today, involved both limits on how much a person can give directly to candidates, just $2,600 in the primary and $2,600 in the general election. And comparable, or similar limits, in what an individual person can give directly to political parties and to political committees. It also involved a limit on the total amount a person can give in a two-year cycle, totaling, like I said, around $123,000.
And the court today upheld the limits still on what you can give to a particular candidate, but they said the total aggregate limit, the limit on how much you can give in total, is unconstitutional. They said â€œWell, we see why there might be â€¦ maybe, thereâ€™s a reason to preserve the restriction on donations to particular candidates, but we donâ€™t see why you should be limited in the number of candidates you can give the maximum contribution to. We donâ€™t see why you should be limited in the number of political party committees you should be able to give the maximum to, or to the limit of the political committees you can give the maximum to.â€
And if you say okay, well, what does that mean? Then they can give the maximum to all of them, that number $123,000, magically turns into $5.9 million. And there might be some impediment to doing that if you had to write, if you were a rich enough person to make that level of donation, you had to write, you know, 435 checks to candidates for the House of Representatives in the primary, and 435 checks in the general election.
Itâ€™s not going to be like that. Itâ€™s going to be writing one check to what will be called a joint fundraising committee. Maybe two checks to these joint fundraising committees who will take that money and then distribute it. So whoâ€™s going to run to the joint fundraising committee? Who is going to be mostly party leaders and political leaders who will be soliciting multi-million-dollar checks and are going to owe their allegiance to those who can write them.
The logic of the court, as I call it, well thereâ€™s a First Amendment right, a speech right for people to contribute as much as they want and, so again, the question further is what is the logic there. What they are really saying is the right to give money deserves the same kind of protection, more or less, as the basic right to speech.
And then you say is there an offsetting value where we should weigh against that, that would justify restrictions on how much a person can give in the aggregate? And the answer was, well, the only thing that we look at is whether this might facilitate quid quo pro corruption meaning will it facilitate illegal bribery or the appearance of illegal bribery? And the answer is, it actually will, but the court says no, it wonâ€™t because it actually doesnâ€™t authorize illegal bribery, and therefore thereâ€™s no countervailing public interest. So, if you ask the question â€œWell, what was the logic of the court?â€ Thatâ€™s how it goes.
Now, there arenâ€™t very many people who think that way. Unfortunately five of the very few people who do, were able to make the decision today. I think regular people would say â€œYouâ€™re talking about the purported rights of a few hundred people as against the rights of the rest of us to have a functioning democracy. That there will be a huge corruption as a result of this, even worse than we already have post-Citizens United.â€
Because itâ€™s a whole new form of giving available now to the super-rich. Thereâ€™s going to be worse corruption, worse tilting of the playing field in favor of the rich, less political equality. In fact, less real political speech because the rest of us who arenâ€™t able to amplify our voices by giving $5.9 million dollars in a single check, or two checks, are going to be shut out.
DB: Alright, and just to be clear, in terms of this $5.9 million, is it a public donation or can they do this in private and not tell anybody?
RW: These donations will be disclosed. This will not increase the dark money that weâ€™ve seen after Citizens United. There will be a different channel of giving. That dark money is all going to outside organizations that donâ€™t have to report their donors. This money is going to go directly to candidates, directly to Republican or Democratic party committees, directly to political action committees that are required to disclose their major donors.
DB: Alright, now just say a little bit more about how this is â€“ I donâ€™t know if this is right â€“ but sort of Citizens United on steroids. Explain how this moves the game with a little more detail.
RW: I think thatâ€™s a reasonable characterization of this decision. Itâ€™s certainly at that magnitude of Citizens United. So one way to think about Citizens United was it established the rights of corporations. And this is really a decision about the rights of the super-rich. And I canâ€™t emphasize enough that weâ€™re talking about a very, very small number of people who are going to seriously benefit from this decision, in terms of the amount of money thatâ€™s going to go in.
Citizens United enabled this unlimited spending by outside organizations that are supposedly not coordinated with candidates. Thereâ€™s a lot of wink, wink, nod, nod kind of coordination that does go on. But still the money is outside of the direct control of the candidates. Now, thatâ€™s got some upsides for the candidates particularly in enabling massive and overwhelming spending on negative, attack advertising. But itâ€™s got a lot of downsides, too, for the candidates because they arenâ€™t able to exert the same kind of control as if the money is in their own coffers.
So this is going to now enable massive increases in the amount of money that goes directly to the candidates. And there will be, I think, a lot of influence on the broad number of beneficiary candidates who get this new money, but the real nexus of influence is going to be between these super donors and the top political leaders and party leaders who are going to be soliciting the giant checks. These are going to be the most important people, the most powerful people in politics. They are going to have a new kind of dependence to and allegiance to the super-rich donors.
DB: Let me ask you to step back a little bit and talk about this in the context of one person, one vote. Thereâ€™s always been a big to-do about voter fraud, making sure things are clean and done well. But this really changes the whole nature of voting in this country or solidifies a different way of conducting what is continued to be called a democracy.
RW: If you step back from this vision and look at what the Supreme Court has done in the last several years on the voting rights side, particularly with the recent Shelby County decision, where they eviscerated crucial provisions of the Voting Rights Act, the court is making it harder for people to vote, especially people of color, low-income people, making it harder for people to vote, and enabling state officials to make it more difficult for people to vote, thatâ€™s on the one hand. And then on the other hand, they are empowering the super-rich and corporations to dominate the election process.
Now part of what they are doing is spending huge amounts of money on negative ads that are intended to deter people from voting. But more generally, they are trying to take control of the electoral process through this expenditure, through these massive expenditures. So itâ€™s kind of a squeeze, from both sides, on electoral democracy. And, you have to say, electoral democracy, at this point, is screaming. I mean this is a really dire situation thatâ€™s going to call for a very dramatic response from the American people.
I think thereâ€™s no doubt for us after Citizens United about the need for a constitutional amendment to both overturn that decision and other Supreme Court decisions to really restore the functioning of our democracy. But for those who did have doubts about that, I think after today itâ€™s crystal clear that we just canâ€™t have a functioning democracy where these kinds of decisions, where these massive floods from different sources now, of super-rich and corporate money are coming to the electoral process, and just overwhelming what is supposed to be a one person, one vote democratic system.
DB: And, finally, it certainly is, isnâ€™t it, a stunning turnaround in the things that began to happen after the revelations around Watergate and dirty money. It looked like there was going to be some slow movement towards real campaign finance reform and that is all gone, wiped out.
RW: Thatâ€™s right. I mean we had a pretty rapid reversal of the momentum post-Watergate with the Buckley decision and then also other decisions that established corporate rights to spend, at least in the area first of election referendum, and then increasingly in other areas. So the court took a bad turn starting in 1976, but really in the last several years, this Roberts court is so hostile to the most commonsense kinds of restraints on campaign spending, that it has become very difficult to talk about reform absent a constitutional amendment.
There are small reforms that one might do to try to mitigate some of the harms of [Wednesdayâ€™s] decision and weâ€™re going to aggressively pursue those, as will others. But those are so inadequate at this point because the court has created a jurisprudence that makes regulators contort so much to try to comply that it just canâ€™t do things. So thatâ€™s going to be true for both the Federal Election Commission and for Congress.
So I think thereâ€™s still space for fundamental legislative reform to get in place systems of public financing. But given what the courtâ€™s done even in that area, public financing is going to take place against the backdrop of these things. Public financing has to be voluntary, according to the court, and you can opt out and chose to accept these giant contributions, choose to be the beneficiary of giant Citizens United outside spending. So even public financing, which we are strongly pushing in the states and in the Congress, is going to suffer against the backdrop of these decisions.
We really have to sweep them away which is why itâ€™s so important that thereâ€™s already been this really fast-growing grassroots movement for a constitutional amendment that I think now is going to pick up enormous steam. â€¦ Weâ€™ve got 38 states involved in this on the same day and I think that is both indicative of how strong the movement has become in the last four years and how much stronger itâ€™s going to grow in the days, weeks and months ahead. We have a lot of work to do. And we donâ€™t have any choice but to do it.
DB: And I must ask you, what about the politics? Is there any indication that this decision coming right before the mid-term elections is in any way going to help one side or the other?
RW: Well, one of the parties that helped bring this case was the Republican National Committee. So, you know, I think itâ€™s going to help them. Itâ€™s going to help generally, by the way, itâ€™s going to help the parties, such as they are, raise more money. Because the parties are going to be able to raise money from very rich people â€¦ in amounts that were previously impermissible. So the Democratic Party is going to raise more money as a result of this decision. The Republican Party is going to raise more additional money as a result of this decision. You know, from a partisan point of view it is going to clearly benefit the Republican Party. And the case was driven by Republican Party operatives.
That said, you know, I really think there is really bipartisan opposition to this system, and the poll data is very convincing on this. Overwhelming numbers of Democrats, but also overwhelming numbers of Republicans oppose the giant influence of the super-wealthy and corporations in Washington. They oppose overwhelmingly the big money influence over the election process. They oppose overwhelmingly the Citizens United decision.
As soon as we get poll data on this decision, Iâ€™m sure people just having commonsense are going to oppose this as well. And, again, itâ€™s going to be across party lines. The trick is going to be both to mobilize people and convert the public anger about this into meaningful action by our elected representatives who are part of this system that weâ€™re trying to reform.
*** Dennis J Bernstein is a host of â€œFlashpointsâ€ on the Pacifica radio network and the author of Special Ed: Voices from a Hidden Classroom.